tRump had approximately 77 million votes. Harris had approximately 74 million. 90 million eligible voters chose to ignore the "participatory" part of "participatory democracy" and did not vote. Those numbers don't say anything good about who we are as a people.
Plenty of evidence that tabulation machines in the swing states flipped votes to trump, WHICH HE ACTUALLY SAID OUT LOUD later, boasting about his win. Add widespread voter suppression and interference, and many votes for Harris were blocked or rejected.
Look. You will find good non-conspiratorial discussion of both of these here on Substack.
I agree with pretty much everything you said here, except I have to question the tabulation machine theory - just as I did when that accusation was leveled - without a shred of evidence - in 2020.
Don’t just sit there and doubt it, test it. Select a random sample of swing state counties and COUNT the paper ballots, then compare that to the tabulator report. If there is NO difference, then put this idea away. But if the difference is consistently in the direction this theory points, expand the recount statewide. PROVE IT, don’t just say “I don’t know.”
Don't take it personally. I wasn't telling YOU to go count the ballets. I was just saying SOMEONE should, and urgently. I don't need to "prove" anything.
There's no question that voter suppression had a significant impact on the result. I don't question that. I do question the idea that voting machines were hacked.
I posted the link as an answer for the need of proof that the election was not fair. Palast's findings are so thorough and proven re the many different ways the democrats' votes were suppressed w/o hacking. It's criminal.
Has that hacking theory been tested at all? I can recall saying that he had a secret shared with Johnston to the effect the election was in the bag. What was he referring to if not hacking voting machines?
Stop the steal is for baby losers. He won under the rules in place and considering 15M people voted for Biden in 2020 didn't bother to show up, no one to blame. So man/women up and deal with it and figure out a way to overwhelm the fuckers next time
Will you people stop that shit? Do you realize that this is how democracy works? The world only sees US POLICY, and doesn't give a damn that some nice lady in Louisiana voted for Harris?
WE didn’t vote for him. Less than half the voting country did.
tRump had approximately 77 million votes. Harris had approximately 74 million. 90 million eligible voters chose to ignore the "participatory" part of "participatory democracy" and did not vote. Those numbers don't say anything good about who we are as a people.
Plenty of evidence that tabulation machines in the swing states flipped votes to trump, WHICH HE ACTUALLY SAID OUT LOUD later, boasting about his win. Add widespread voter suppression and interference, and many votes for Harris were blocked or rejected.
Look. You will find good non-conspiratorial discussion of both of these here on Substack.
Repeat: Trump is not the people’s choice.
I agree with pretty much everything you said here, except I have to question the tabulation machine theory - just as I did when that accusation was leveled - without a shred of evidence - in 2020.
Don’t just sit there and doubt it, test it. Select a random sample of swing state counties and COUNT the paper ballots, then compare that to the tabulator report. If there is NO difference, then put this idea away. But if the difference is consistently in the direction this theory points, expand the recount statewide. PROVE IT, don’t just say “I don’t know.”
I don't have access to either - nor should I or any of us. So the burden of proof is on you.
Don't take it personally. I wasn't telling YOU to go count the ballets. I was just saying SOMEONE should, and urgently. I don't need to "prove" anything.
https://hartmannreport.com/p/trump-lost-vote-suppression-won-c6f
There's no question that voter suppression had a significant impact on the result. I don't question that. I do question the idea that voting machines were hacked.
I posted the link as an answer for the need of proof that the election was not fair. Palast's findings are so thorough and proven re the many different ways the democrats' votes were suppressed w/o hacking. It's criminal.
It definitely is criminal. No question about that.
Has that hacking theory been tested at all? I can recall saying that he had a secret shared with Johnston to the effect the election was in the bag. What was he referring to if not hacking voting machines?
Stop the steal is for baby losers. He won under the rules in place and considering 15M people voted for Biden in 2020 didn't bother to show up, no one to blame. So man/women up and deal with it and figure out a way to overwhelm the fuckers next time
sorry no one to blame but us:)
"Those numbers don't say anything good about who we are as a people."
That's true as far as that goes, but let me ask you this:
Did >you< vote for Trump? Did you stay home on election day? Do you feel personally responsible for his ascension?
Me neither.
I believe that Muskrat did something with the votes in Pa. We know that happened because Trumpanzee bragged that thanks to Musk they won.
This. Times 90 million.
Will you people stop that shit? Do you realize that this is how democracy works? The world only sees US POLICY, and doesn't give a damn that some nice lady in Louisiana voted for Harris?
If you count the 30+ % who didn't vote at all, and could have, it's higher.