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GrrlScientist's avatar

Professor Krugman: as Hannah Arendt wrote in her book, The Origins of Totalitarianism: “Total loyalty is possible only when fidelity is emptied of all concrete content, from which changes of mind might naturally arise.”

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NubbyShober's avatar

In this case, cutting science funding is a two-fer: pandering to anti-Darwin religionists; and the let's-deny-climate-change-science fossil fuel executives.

Oh wait, it's actually a three-fer, because the $30 billion in research funding just axed are being given as OBBB tax cuts to Jeffie and other billionaires to buy new yachts.

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Cissna, Ken's avatar

And they’re drastically increasing the ICE-driven police state.

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Stephen Fisher's avatar

From the progressive press, so much on economic risks, on war on science. OK, I'm sitting in Canada, but the OBBB has given obscene amounts of funding to a Gestapo and concentration camps. The resistance should be 'concentrated' there first. How can the home of the brave, land of the free not fight against that with every fibre...?

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Chris's avatar

The security state has been growing like a cancer for at least a century, and the home of the brave and land of the free's response to it has usually been to word-vomit a whole lot of stupid about Our Brave Boys In Blue.

Not that ICE isn't something new and worse, but it fits a very long trend. Attempts to rein in the security state have usually been short-lived and reversible, and the root of the problem is that the average American treats cops and feds like they're freaking infallible.

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Ryan Collay's avatar

When they started driving black SUV’s I worried…they seemed like the wrong message, and then they tried to kill Community Policing!

Too nice, ‘we want SWAT teams, door rams and big black vans!’

It’s fire departments who set fires to prove their worth…

And the border agents union is a center of this all.

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Winston Smith London Oceania's avatar

That was bad enough. Then they switched to camouflaged armored carriers.

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chris lemon's avatar

Bin Laden won.

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Chris's avatar

I guess?

I think in a hundred years or so, Osama Bin Laden will be remembered the same way Gavrilo Princip is today - not a criminal mastermind, just the idiot who happened to light a powderkeg that was always going to go up one way or another.

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Brian's avatar

Assigning priorities in this situation is futile. In a landslide everything moves downhill at once, so there's no advantage to trying to find the best place to stand. What this should tell us is that everyone is free to dig in and fight wherever they are.

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Winston Smith London Oceania's avatar

We're working on it. Stay tuned.

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Joy B's avatar

That should be the rallying cry of the Democrats. Defund ICE.

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Kimberly Slone's avatar

Absolutely not.

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Winston Smith London Oceania's avatar

Achtung! Der Neue Gestapo ist kommen!

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Frau Katze's avatar

Someone please report the spammer. Due to a Substack bug the report doesn’t work on an iPhone.

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Bryan Donovan's avatar

Reported

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Frau Katze's avatar

And it’s been removed!

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LeonTrotsky's avatar

It's trickle down theory all over again: make the rich richer and we'll all be better off. After all, they're the job creators, aren't they? And by implication, you're the job takers. This ruse needs to be renamed for what it is: trickle down trickery.

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Winston Smith London Oceania's avatar

Or "the trickle on effect". While the corporate golden boys get their golden parachutes, the rest of us get the golden showers. So how about it America, do feel trickled on enough yet?

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NubbyShober's avatar

The GOP enablers & influencers didn't even mention the supposed wonders of Trickle-Down this time. Not that I've seen, anyway. Which means either they're lazy, or they don't give a sweet shit any more over any criticism of the GOP's prime function: Pandering to Billionaires.

THIS latter explanation is how Epstein was able to continue to prey on young teen girls for DECADES after that Vanity Fair article first came out in the early Aughts. And exactly why the GOP's Alex Acosta prosecuted him on merely a *single* count of soliciting a teen prostitute--despite having compiled massive amounts of testimony from DOZENS of teens and their families. Epstein paid GOP to play.

This was the same Alex Acosta that Trump1 made Secretary of Labor, a fricking cabinet position.

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When the Republicans invented this mythology a popular way that opponents explained it is that it means feeding more oats to the horse so that a few more come out the other end.

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Cheryl from Maryland's avatar

I see it as a four-fer -- monetizing government-funded science, especially weather, even more. Never mind that government-funded science is what makes monetization of weather products, pharmaceuticals, vaccines, etc., possible.

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Andan Casamajor's avatar

What are weather corporations like AccuWeather going to buy if NOAA and the NWS are sufficiently crippled and gutted? Where will they get the accurate data they are now reselling if the science and scientists are sidelined? This one I don't get at all.

Fires and floods already. Next up, hurricanes, which may be the phenomena for which rapidly updated information is most crucial, given the large geographic swathes of danger, new hazards such as rapid intensification, and the logistical complications of mass evacuations.

Oh, and we now know that FEMA is overseen by an unqualified, indifferent moron who waited a week to go to the Texas floods, crucial days after frantic search and rescue operations had sadly become recovery operations. He in turn reports to a narcissistic poseur who burns money that exceeds her budget assembling an authoritarian secret police force, delights in cruelty, and bragged about shooting her rambunctious puppy in a gravel pit.

What could go wrong?

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Sun's avatar

Except geology. No geology, no coal, oil, or gas.

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Archimedes of Syracuse's avatar

No metals, no minerals, no earthquake warning, no groundwater, no stability validation for buildings and infrastructure, ...

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Jim Brady's avatar

If they buy new yachts they'll need new harbours to park them. But I thought they all wanted space joyrides these days.

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Winston Smith London Oceania's avatar

They want both. They want it >all<. They won't know what to do with themselves if they actually get it. That's when they'll start cannibalizing each other.

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Ethereal fairy Natalie's avatar

I can see it now, the only jobs will be as mercenary armies, to protect the rich's toys. Then they send their army out to steal each others property.

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Winston Smith London Oceania's avatar

And wage war over fresh water. The last man standing will be on the summit of a large hill, pumping his fist and declaring "Yes! I win!" before he too croaks, rendering humanity extinct.

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Ethereal fairy Natalie's avatar

I'm not sure what that means, when this sounds like a "best-case"scenario.

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Stefan Paskell's avatar

The more dangerous idea is based upon the fundamental meanings: science is the search for truth, and all searches for truth are sciences in one way or another.

It is truth that is being attacked. Call it what it is: an attack on truth itself.

Now, why would they do that?

It is almost unbelievable that there even is a contest between truth and falsehood, and that the lie is winning by dictatorial degree and rewriting history. What a time we live in!

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NubbyShober's avatar

The fundamentalist (Christian) 50% of the GOP Base are staunch Creationists, and view most scientific enquiry with...suspicion.

Big Oil/Coal/Gas is perhaps the second most important GOP constituency, and is responsible for Trump2 dismantling and/or damaging NOAA, and anything to do with climate science.

The MAGA rank-and-file are extremely skeptical--if not outright hostile--to vaccines and applied immunology.

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Winston Smith London Oceania's avatar

...and ironically, inadvertently proving that Darwin was right.

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Ethereal fairy Natalie's avatar

Yes. You are correct. When Trumplethinskin gave his tax-cuts for the rich, in the first term, my rep Vern Buchanan (already one of the richest reps in FL) he bought another yacht. He is worthless, and sends out religious crap disguised as polls.

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PipandJoe's avatar

This is why cults try to limit all outside influence and why the GOP call objective fact based reporting "fake news." It is to keep the truth from poking holes in the disinformation which would set these folks free.

You would think it would dawn on those who subscribe to this nonsense that it is rather illogical to assume that what is largely being reported globally and by most, because they are simply reporting objective reality, is somehow "fake news" and assume instead that their isolated and politically affiliated preferred programing is somehow the truth and not the actual source of distortions and propaganda.

Just think of the stress and cognitive dissonance people are experiencing right now who believed in both Trump and also the Epstein conspiracies. They have invested so much in both and now must choose which to believe. However, accepting that they are being duped on some level either way (and Trump himself also helped fan the conspiracies) is tough for them to swallow but they can't believe in both at this point.

They also seem to believe that educated elites are far more capable than they are (like MTGs assumption of liberals controlling weather) leading to bizarre and wild conspiracies like some sci-fi fantasy or Bond movie) or that that at the same time and in the reverse that science is somehow flimsy and based on assumptions and not useful.

The best thing about more people being able to attend college, is that once they do, it helps to dispel the myth making of James Bond super villain capabilities able to be acquired by educated elites, and thus dispel wild conspiracies based on that (like weather control or space lasers) and at the same time, it teaches people that scientific information acquired within its framework of a scientific method is objective and useful and accurate. It also teaches people where one can find useful information and how to tell the difference.

The people who go to college are not necessarily smarter or different on average than those who don't, in my view, but they end up with first hand knowledge of what the possibilities actually are or are not and thus how bizarre and silly she sounds (most of them anyway).

They have seen the "man behind the curtain" and he is merely human but has some good tools at his disposal based on, and limited by, science.

Far fewer would get sucked into conspiracies if they had the ability to remove the curtain by attending college, even if it is for just a year or two.

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Judy Aims's avatar

Critical thinking skills are sorely lacking

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Ethereal fairy Natalie's avatar

Teaching that subject is highly discouraged in Texas.

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George Patterson's avatar

"You can lead a man to knowledge, but you cannot make him think." - Social Studies teacher in Heinlein's "Starship Troopers."

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Ryan Collay's avatar

This was a critical step in the ‘drugification’ of media, the well named Rush tapped this vein and Fuax followed! The ‘fake news’ are drug dealers and too many are addicted…

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Winston Smith London Oceania's avatar

"And so if people are violating the law by doing drugs, they ought to be accused and they ought to be convicted and they ought to be sent up" -Rush Limbaugh

Then he got caught being addicted to prescription opiates. Then he changed his tune!

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Ryan Collay's avatar

Yes that is such an amazing values…do as I say not as I do! Of course this was always Rushing Rush!

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Ethereal fairy Natalie's avatar

Drugs and Dominican rent-boys, (and a suitcase full of Viagra. If I recall correctly).

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Winston Smith London Oceania's avatar

OMFG! Did he do >that< too?! What a winner.

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Ethereal fairy Natalie's avatar

Yes, the head FIFA guy bought it to the White house for a photo op. Trump would not give it back.

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Ethereal fairy Natalie's avatar

I call that "Pout-rage" they get a dopamine rush from the ridiculous propaganda.

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WC's avatar

that's why the MAGAs are also very commonly religious. for most of time, the religious leaders controlled the information and told their followers what to believe and think.

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PipandJoe's avatar

Yes, for some they belong to a community of followers, with a leader like a pastor, and thus it simply may feel more natural and at home for them to not question things as much, and to look for this type of leader, simply based on that. However, faith should be reserved for religion, not politics or much of anything else. My opinion, anyway.

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WC's avatar

Right. It seems insane to put their faith into a man who literally embodies the seven deadly sins but what can we do.

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chris lemon's avatar

Trump's going to have to prune the Ten Commandments down to about three also.

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WC's avatar

haha

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Ethereal fairy Natalie's avatar

A common sense attitude.

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Winston Smith London Oceania's avatar

It would do them well to at least get beyond junior high school.

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Ethereal fairy Natalie's avatar

That's asking an awful lot of their poor brains, atrophied from lack of use as they are. But their Amygdalas are huge!

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NSAlito's avatar

This is why I balk at treating loyalty as a *virtue*.

From Al Franken's Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them:

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We love America just as much as they do. But in a different way. You see, they love America like a 4-year-old loves his mommy. Liberals love America like grown-ups. To a 4-year-old, everything Mommy does is wonderful and anyone who criticizes Mommy is bad. Grown-up love means actually understanding what you love, taking the good with the bad and helping your loved one grow.

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(David Cross comically addressed the incongruity of those "patriots" who complain about the state of America while attacking any liberal criticism of it.)

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Raul Ramos y Sanchez's avatar

Trump and MAGA have put the United States on the path to a second-rate nation. Why? Because dictators prefer to rule a poor country than share power in an affluent one.

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Hey

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Michael Happy's avatar

Spam reported.

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David E Lewis's avatar

We are getting ever closer to the MAGA inquisition and the imposed belief structure.

The earth is 7000 years old and sits at the center of the universe.

If you are poor it is entirely your fault. You need to work harder for less money.

There is no climate change and if there is, it isn't caused by man.

Donald Trump is the smartest, healthiest most moral man that ever lived.

Thank you for your attention to this matter.

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Deanna Bowling's avatar

I hate to say it: but we elected him, we get what we deserve as a nation. I did not vote for him but I did vote. I believe that indifference, a failure to participate in our democratic system, bears a great responsibility for what is coming next. We did not choose what is best, we gave it away by indifference. The majority did not vote at all. We failed to speak in the present, we may not be asked to speak in the future. If you didn’t bother to speak in the past you have no real right to complain in the future.

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LeonTrotsky's avatar

The billionaires funded his campaign to get him elected. One man, one vote has been replaced with one dollar, one vote.

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Carol C's avatar

Absolutely right, Deanna. “We did not choose what is best, we gave it away by indifference. The majority did not vote at all. We failed to speak in the present, we may not be asked to speak in the future.”

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Sandra Mullins's avatar

As voters, we carry responsibility for who is elected. Not enough research and news reporting is focused on the eligible voters who do not vote. Most commonly, I hear them say, “nothing changes.” I think the media and Democrats fail to take the message of political engagement to those people. We don’t seem to be able to reach them and to help them see benefits in their neighborhoods that government policies have made, such as health insurance. The Republicans cleverly made sure the cuts to Medicaid would not go into effect until after 2026 elections. After the Biden legislation was passed, there seemed to be no plan for Congress people to talk about the different elements of the legislation in their states and districts and how it would affect people.

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Gordon Berry's avatar

The "We" is NOT most of us.

He fixed the vote...

Read this 2024 Presidential vote analysis that is onging...

https://electiontruthalliance.org/

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Marc R Hapke's avatar

But what will be done about it when we have irrefutable proof that the republicans cheated in the swing states in 2024? The feckless Dems have showed that they don't have the stones for the necessary fight. If We the People try to follow Jefferson's advice in the Declaration of Independence, the newly created and massively empowered Schutzstaffel will not hesitate to put us down like dogs. I am livid, but I really don't see a way out of what's happening here and elsewhere other than WW3.

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Kathi Ruel's avatar

Thank you, Barry! Yours is my exact opinion.

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David E Lewis's avatar

That more registered voters voted for neither candidate, an outcome that usually happens over the past couple cycles but did NOT when Biden won, is quite depressing.

On the margin the bomb scares in heavily Dem districts mattered, BUT when Sen. Slotkin can win a statewide race that Harris lost that's concerning.

Tougher sledding in 2026. Far more physical voter suppression will be in play.

Hopefully Donnie crashes the economy AND he and the GOP get blamed for it.

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Kathi Ruel's avatar

“We” did not elect him. The MAGAts, Musk Manipulation and EC put him in office. A whole lot of citizens did not vote CFDT into office.

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Jennifer Butz's avatar

Where’s my kool-aid?

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Robert Jaffee's avatar

I’ve learned just to take the cyanide A la carte, and leave the kool-aid at home, it’s easier to swallow…:)

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George Patterson's avatar

What they seem to be preaching these days is that global warming is entirely natural and there's nothing we can do about it.

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Ryan Collay's avatar

Worse! ‘Look at how much more warm beach front we can develop! climate change will make the Earth so much nicer, for golf, for making money!” Yes he said this, really!

Wahoo!

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LeonTrotsky's avatar

The desperate mugs parrot the propaganda of the oil and gas industry.

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Ethereal fairy Natalie's avatar

The religious fanatics think if they ruin the earth, Jesus will swoop in and "rapture" them, and leave the rest of us in the toxic hell they made. Such dumb-asses, the rapture is fan-fiction, and not even in their bible.

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chris lemon's avatar

It's in the later sections of the 'Book of Mammon', after the parts about Jesus making you rich.

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Robert Yampolsky's avatar

To the extent that there's any rational thought behind their stance on global warming, I think they think they know that we've passed the point of no return, and even draconian efforts will only make things marginally less worse, even as the effects of past emissions continue to warm the planet. And they may be right. The tech billionaires think Mars is the (idiotic) answer. Or spraying particulates into the atmosphere. Meanwhile, China (long the oilmen's excuse for why it's pointless for us to act) is taking it far more seriously. And maybe (given their size and current pollution levels) that's enough to cancel out the damage of our inaction - give or take an "industry of the future" or two that were ceding to them in the process.

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Colleen's avatar

Yes so true. All the Magas can visit the future Trump Resort, in Gaza, once his mates have displaced or killed what left of the Palestinians. I just keep hoping for Kama and all his properties are taken out - by Global Warming consequences. Although I hate the thought see all his immigrant workers get wiped out, as they will have no warning to get out in time - as no more weather forecasting.

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JOHNWALL's avatar

I’ve thought there was vote rigging from the 2024 results. Not only did Trump claim he was confident Musk was fixing the outcomes by fixing the vote counting machine. Trump also simply stopped campaigning at his rallies well in advance of Election Day and simply swayed with his music. Who simply stops running ahead of the election? A lazy moronic crook, that’s who!

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David E Lewis's avatar

I wouldn’t be surprised but I have no direct knowledge.

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Charlie Hardy's avatar

And it seems there are a lot who believe this stuff in disUSA already including other stuff such as that there is a Dems paedo filled HQ under a garage somewhere. Epsteinesque Bondi-ng?

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Peter's avatar

Nothing terrifies Republicans more than an educated person with critical thinking skills.

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Michael Happy's avatar

I think the word is "enrages" rather than "terrifies".

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Peter's avatar

Could the rage be a manifestation of their fear?

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Michael Happy's avatar

I think it's more their sense of inferiority.

Fear suggests intimidation.

These thugs are tearing through the intelligentsia with glee.

No intimidation there.

But lots of resentment.

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Peter's avatar

Agree. Hard to expect much more from mediocre white men who peaked in junior high.

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Mark Olsen's avatar

It is malevolent envy.

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Michael Happy's avatar

Sure. Which is still not fear and still resentment.

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ira lechner's avatar

These disgraceful cuts will affect virtually all of us in a multitude of ways: the next time you board a plane your safety as well as comfort will depend on the predictable weather for your pilots to assess and to avoid etc etc. SHAME on every Republican in Congress other than only two in the House and three in the Senate! SHAME on each and every one who voted for this disastrous bill!

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Peter's avatar

Not just the cuts, it's the malevolent incompetence as well. Noem is a fuck up with hair extensions who so badly botched the Texas response that she should be fired and deported. Duffy presides over an air traffic system so broken that planes are already falling from the sky. And don't even get me started on Hegseth or Rubio. It will take a century for us to recover from this, if ever.

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Carol C's avatar

Kristi Noem epitomizes the gravitas of all Trump’s people.

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Ryan Collay's avatar

I think kindergarteners…they are just mad! They don’t know why, nor care, and they need a time out!

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Ethereal fairy Natalie's avatar

👆🎯Yes, they want higher education to be their sole province.

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Kathi Ruel's avatar

🎯🎯🎯

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CDinWeChe's avatar

The attack on science is similar to the attack on the media, the attack on higher education, the attack on the courts, the promotion of religion, the promotion of crypto, the militarization of law enforcement, and on and on. The shared goal is to attack the idea of objective truth so that the average person will remain in ignorance and those in control may accumulate as much wealth as possible. A public that lives as much as possible in darkness and fear will not have the knowledge or the wherewithal to appreciate the sources of their suffering or the systemic changes they should be demanding.

The NYT is actively participating in the destruction of our institutions by describing Trump administration efforts as attempts to shrink government or by providing other anodyne explanations for drastic and frequently unjustifiable policy changes. Do they know this? Do they not appreciate the motives of the modern right wing movement for what they are? Is the attempt to maintain some transparently bogus appearance of fairness motivated simply by their economics? Are they just like most other businesses, which is to say, ultimately unconcerned with the takeover of our institutions provided that their business models are not damaged?

Thank goodness for Paul K, who is a reliable source of truth telling, and has been for many years.

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Robert Jaffee's avatar

“The NYT is actively participating in the destruction of our institutions by describing Trump administration efforts as attempts to shrink government or by providing other anodyne explanations for drastic and frequently unjustifiable policy changes. Do they know this?”

Well said, but is this a rhetorical question? The NYT’s has always been this way. From promoting Hitler in the 30’s, to supporting Stalin in the 40’s, to the Business Plot, to Iraq, and now this: Trump!

Bottom line, when democracy is on the line, the NYT’s is definitely not “all the news that’s fit to print!”

Moreover, we just watched them sane-wash Trump straight into the Whitehouse. And now, they are treating Trump with kid gloves. Had Obama or Biden tried to justify his ridiculous tariffs using an imaginary justification, they’d have been laughed out of DC. Yet, here we are!

That said, this is deliberate and by design. And they understand exactly what MAGA is; however, if you haven’t noticed, the two largest shareholders of the Times are Vanguard and BlackRock, who also happen to be two of Trump’s largest supporters, and the two largest money management funds in the country. Let that sink in!..:)

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Ryan Collay's avatar

Yes, great synopsis!

Of course ‘they’ know this, it’s easier than thinking…polls are dropping and so they pull out the secret service story and print the picture of ‘Bloodied Donny Fist Pump’!

Selling drugs to the masses. Keeping it 50/50 sells more papers.

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chris lemon's avatar

Oddly, fewer and fewer people read traditional papers. Its an aging group. So you can anticipate the NYT's, and similar source's, news to get stranger and stranger as they follow the niche interests of their oligarch owners and narrow reader base. Fox "news" blazed the trail. With no common base in reality, democracy is impossible, as elections devolve into tribal slugfests.

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Ethereal fairy Natalie's avatar

Yes. Editor Joe Kahn stated he couldn't wait to cover trump in the white house again, and that "saving democracy was not his job."

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Robert Manz's avatar

I suggest stop saying Project 2025 and start saying Heritage Foundation. They are running the government. No one elected them.

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Robert Manz's avatar

And of course no one voted for the coup they are executing

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Terence J. Ollerhead's avatar

Yes, millions did.

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Marc R Hapke's avatar

While they may not have actually realized they were voting for a coup, most MAGAts are quite OK with it because racism is in their DNA.

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Thomas Reiland's avatar

The Heritage Foundation should be considered a terrorist organization. If Project 2025's name was changed to "Putin's Plan to Destroy US Democracy" not one word would need to be changed.

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Robert Yampolsky's avatar

Is it the Heritage Foundation or the Federalist Society that's destroying American Democracy. Or are they playing tag team? And are they basically funded by the same monsters...

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Ethereal fairy Natalie's avatar

They are writing the laws to enslave us, and churning out legal drones to put in as judges, to keep their damage. They've been doing it since the late 70's.

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Ryan Collay's avatar

‘Whittle’ Stevie Miller is in charge…he’s the gatekeeper, the Wormtongue is Donny’s ear. ‘you really need to pay another round, he sign these before you go…’

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Spencer Weart's avatar

CHINA is already more or less equal to the US in many fields of science, and ahead in important ones relating to technology... you can look up the citation statistics... and their trajectory shows astonishingly rapid advance. I became aware of this personally a while back as I noticed an increased number of Chinese names in the authors of papers of my field of interest. At first, well, a lot of them turned out to be working in US labs (yay immigration). But increasingly they are in China itself. We are already falling behind in the most important of all races, and now we're shooting ourselves in both feet. (I's not just weather and medicine, there's devastating attacks on the National Science Foundation, the National Academy of Sciences, ALL research grants to universities and so on.)

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Michael Happy's avatar

China will be taking America's lunch money before the decade is out.

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Joan Semple's avatar

It’s already being snatched by Trump, so no one will notice the change except maybe the heir-in-waiting, JD Vance.

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Ethereal fairy Natalie's avatar

Snatched like a $230,000 FIFA trophy.

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vcragain's avatar

Entirely because the "Commander in Chief" has zero respect for education - he refuses to accept anybody's opinion that contradicts what he prefers to 'know'. He is the worst of the ignorant - the one who thinks he knows everything already !!!

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Ada Fuller's avatar

An article in the Houston paper today detailed a Chinese spy’s activities here and in CA before he was arrested. This particular one was looking for Navy secrets. China has a long history of coming to Houston looking for secrets from NASA, manufacturers and the medical field. They don’t necessarily figure things out for themselves.

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Jim Brady's avatar

They will.

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rj123456's avatar

Maybe that's #MAGA's cunning plan (H/T Baldrick)... stop our research so China will be faced to do it themselves, and we can steal it from China for pennies on the dollar.

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Gordon Berry's avatar

Yes! A year's sabbatical in China and learning about their government's financial support was eye-opening

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Robert Jaffee's avatar

At a time when this country is experiencing hundreds of billions a year in natural disaster damage, we have an administration that is dismantling FEMA, and reducing our ability to fight and prevent natural disasters.

How does this save this country money? Insurance rates are so high we have people paying higher premiums on their home insurance than their entire mortgage payment.

And with the dismantling of the NIH, CDC and government grant programs, we are also experiencing a brain drain this nation has never experienced before. We are literally playing right into China’s hands, and sending all of our allies into their grasp.

This is a recipe for disaster, and unfortunately, I believe it’s the point. Destroy the economy so they can rebuild with little resistance, which means they need to decimate the Middle Class. IMHO…:)

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Stephen Brady's avatar

It is so incredibly wasteful. DOD is cutting access for satellite microwave data - they gather anyway - to NOAA... It messes up Hurricane forecasting and monitoring arctic sea ice. It is mean-spirited stupidity. The thing that putting reichwing ideologues in charge of government is guaranteed to get you.

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Kim Nesvig's avatar

“Issac’s Storm” would be a good read for those who fail to grasp the consequences of ignorance and incomplete knowledge.

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Isaac Robinson's avatar

For those inclined to listening and learning, I appreciate the many well-presented historical lessons applied to modern situations as found in the "Cautionary Tales" podcast (https://www.pushkin.fm/podcasts/cautionary-tales). Many are about ignorance, incomplete knowledge, and/or having fixed mindsets at the wrong time.

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Robert Jaffee's avatar

Thank you, I’ll check it out…:)

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Andy's avatar

If we let them build an ice

force of loyalist goons larger than all the other military branches and give Trump his own personal Gestapo we will all be trapped in this fascist nightmare for a loong time unless we have a full blown civil war. The cabal of evil fucks like Leonard Leo and Peter Thiel who are actually running things are not about to give up power that after decades of effort they have finally succeeded in stealing from the rest of us. Trump is a willing puppet who is happy to let them keep destroying the nation as long as he gets to play president strongman on tv and he has been bribed in every way conceivable, to boot. The billionaires actually invented whole new ways of political bribing never done before just for him with the crypto scams. When he inevitibly dies in office they will seize the reigns permanently. The supreme court has given up its power, congress has abdicated their responsibility to the constitution, and the puppet president is a megalomaniacal malignant narcissicist with dementia and his finger on the nuclear football. I hate to say it, but American democracy is dead and the country itself is probably cooked as well. Best of luck to you all in the conflicts to come. Sigh.

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chris lemon's avatar

No, don't sugarcoat the situation, tell us what you really think!

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Andy's avatar

I've studied a lot of history over the years. What it shows is that fascists are extremely predictable, they are all basically the same. Magas are a particularly cruel and stupid variant, but they are still following the same patterns. Theres a reason folks like Timothy Snyder left the country. If I had the means I would too. Once things devolve to this point in a country the nation either collapses into dictatorship or they are removed by force. But no one is coming to save America, we did this to ourselves with our stupidity and the rest of the planet would be happy to see us fail if it weren't garunteed that if we did we will take the rest of the planet down with us. I don't know whats going to happen, but right now it does not appear there will be anything left worth saving after 4 years of this bullshit.

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chris lemon's avatar

I'd like to thing you're wrong about how this will sort out, but the trend is pretty clear. "You don't need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows." The US won't actually collapse, it will probably end up looking like Brazil, but without Carnival. Churchill may be right about the "Americans can always be trusted to do the right thing, once all other possibilities have been exhausted." But you can't run a superpower based only on responding to disasters, especially self inflicted ones. One hope is that when the plutocrats start really losing money due to the stupidity, they start pulling the strings of their puppets in congress and the senate, and forcing a stop to the stupidity.

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Andy's avatar

Sadly the plutocrats are the ones behind this. They made a deal with the white nationalists to allow them to destroy the government/ nation in exchange for massive tax cuts and a promise thst they will never be held accountable for their crimes. Since Trump is a criminal and a racist himself he was happy to oblige both factions. They are intentionally destroying what was left of the middle class and immiserating the populace right now so people are truly desperate. The billionaires plan on buying the country for pennies once its a smoldering pile of ruin. So far everything has been going according to plan.

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chris lemon's avatar

In the spirit of Louis XVI, for the plutocrats: ask not for whom the tumbrels roll, they roll for thee.

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Sharon Senkiew's avatar

I couldn’t agree more.

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Aubrey W Kendrick's avatar

Thanks to Professor Krugman for that article. You mentioned the report in the NYT which attributes the budget cuts to "efforts to shrink the Federal government" and not to efforts to inhibit research and science. It is depressing that so many seemly smart people don't seem to understand what is going on.

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Doug Tarnopol's avatar

They do. They want to maintain their socioeconomic position. So they grovel in front of power. That’s always been their M.O. No difference now—it’s just that now it’s groveling to fascists.

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Aubrey W Kendrick's avatar

Good comment. Remember that the NYT and other "mainstream" media talked daily about "Biden's Mental decline" but never talk about Donald's incoherent and often nonsensical speeches. They have done everything possible to sane wash and normalize Donald and MAGA.

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George Patterson's avatar

The NYT published some of DonnyJon's speeches intact at least once. Once he won the election and started targeting all of his enemies, they became very cautious. Some of the Time's opinion writers still tell it like it is, but the headline writers all slant things in the administration's favor. Over thirty years ago, I was taught to read the last paragraph or two of any article first. That's where they will hide the counter-arguments to whatever leads off.

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Ethereal fairy Natalie's avatar

Read Prof Krugman's article on why he left them, they were rewriting AND censoring him.

https://substack.com/home/post/p-155963068?source=queue

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Jenn Borgesen's avatar

If the true goal was to shrink the govt and eliminate waste and fraud, they'd have started with an audit of the Pentagon. All of this death by 10,000 papercuts is tiny in the grand svope of the budget, but important to the millions who depends on those seemingly inconsequential services. And sheds light into the cruelty and path of the Administration...normalize these cuts till it's too late to ne stopped.

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Aubrey W Kendrick's avatar

Or look at the big corporations such as Big Pharma, Hospitals, and medical companies which overcharge and take advantage of Medicare and Medicaid. I read that multi billions of dollars go to pay for unnecessary medical procedures and overbilling. But Congress critters don't want to cut off the money spigot for corporations that donate to the campaign funds for said Congress critters.

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Ethereal fairy Natalie's avatar

That is a popular pastime here in FL, and how fortunes are made. (P)Rick Scott, and Matt Gaetz's dad Don as an example of two although Daddy Gaetz was smart enough to sell his hospice chain before they got caught.

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2019/07/how-matt-gaetz-used-daddys-money-to-become-trumps-favorite-congressman/

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Jenn Borgesen's avatar

Surely the real waste, fraud and abuse is perpetrated by providers and insurance companies. How is it the cash, no insurance price for my inhaler is less than my covered price?

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Ethereal fairy Natalie's avatar

They understand, they are on the oligarchs side and always have been.

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Robert Duane Shelton's avatar

In 1950 President Truman created the National Science Foundation to maintain the worldwide scientific leadership that helped win WWII. In recent years, that leadership has been challenged by China, a potential military adversary. Now the Trump Administration has thrown in the towel, cutting NSF funding to the bone, and even evicting them from their offices. As the good professor points out, Trump is also cutting research funding at other key government agencies, too. This will not end well for the US.

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Doug Tarnopol's avatar

Use the proper term: they are totalitarian fascists.

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MDA's avatar

This attack and dismantling of federal agencies and institutions is definitely following the handbook literally written by the Heritage Institute, but in regards to Trump I also see a huge element of malice and payback for how he was embarrassed by them in his first term. Remember the "Sharpie Incident" with the hurricane map? How stupid he appeared alongside experts from the CDC? Smart, competent people dedicated to doing their jobs well have no place in his administration. Kakistocracy rules.

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Stephen Pedvin's avatar

Idiocracy as well.

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Michael Happy's avatar

I think that at the lizard brain level this is about the return to the Wild West -- where it's everyone for themself, and a man with a gun gets the last say.

It certainly means (as is never acknowledged about "frontier times") that a small oligarchy enjoys all the privileges and protections while everyone else is subject to predation, deprivation, and the very real prospect of an unnecessarily miserable and premature death.

Because then at least you knew that men were men and women were women.

And isn't that the American Way for the dimwitted beta males now running things?

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Jenn Borgesen's avatar

Amen.

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Ethereal fairy Natalie's avatar

And of course they have no clue on the actual historical period, where in the towns the sheriff would take the cowboys weapons until they left town.

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Arthur Sanders's avatar

I am currently reading a novel taking place in 1985 with AIDS front and center. What struck me was that the kind of people who barely dared to come within 10 meters of a possible AIDS patient back then, is the same kind who downplayed Covid-19 and refused to wear masks and keep distance.

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Anne H's avatar

Homosexuality and/or skin colour was involved.

Much less internet too. Tougher to spread bizarre conspiracy theories

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Ethereal fairy Natalie's avatar

Yes, religious bias played a huge part in that, they ran poor Ryan White out of town after his mother, a nurse, confessed to her pastor Ryan had gotten AIDS from a blood transfusion (he was a hemophiliac). He then proceeded to blab to his other parrishioners and the poor kid got death threats from all the "good christians". I am very bitter because I lost my best friend, because of Reagan's neglect to push funding for a cure.

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Stephen Olsen's avatar

We are in the beginning stages of a century in which AI and information science will filter the haves from the have-nots. China is approaching this by making high-quality college and beyond education easily available and affordable to all young people who want it, and increasing govt support for R&D in both basic and applied sciences. The US approach is to reduce availabilty and increase the cost of already outrageous tuition, and halving R&D funding.

Who do you think think will prosper in the rest of this century

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Elizabeth's avatar

Pol Pot. Taking America to Ground Zero.

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Michael Happy's avatar

Year Zero...

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Elizabeth's avatar

Right. Thanks,

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chris lemon's avatar

Could be both.

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Lilolme's avatar

Much as I loath DJT and all who sail with him, comparing him to Pol Pot is disrespectful to Cambodians. His reign was brutal and fatal for so many he makes Hitler look like a choir boy. He had his torture chambers filmed in 35mm so he could share the cruelty in his own time. I could go on but won’t. I think my point is made.

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Michael Happy's avatar

Oh my, it's early days yet! Less than six months in and we've got illegally rounded up people dying in custody -- and, of course, MAGA's pride and joy, Alligator Alcatraz.

Six months from now, who knows where we'll be?

We only know it will be exponentially worse.

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Ethereal fairy Natalie's avatar

Orange Pol Pot.

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