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Terence's avatar

Timothy Snyder is quite definitive in his assessment that if the Dems win the House and Senate, and don't immediately act on reform, then they are lost forever, along with the country.

Excellent discussion. Thank you.

Jon Harrison's avatar

Trump will veto anything they try to do. All they can do is try to keep Trump in check until '29. Maybe Tim was on acid when he said that? (Not being serious.)

Mark McIntyre's avatar

Trump no doubt has something up his sleeve to disrupt the midterms like a 'national emergency.' If our rogue Supreme Court rubber stamps his EO about mail-in ballots, all bets are off.

Mark McIntyre's avatar

Sorry to interrupt. A short time ago Iran issued a long list of demands to reopen the Strait the U.S. has previously rejected. Big slap in the face for Trump and sure to derail peace talks.

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/08/08/world/middleeast/iran-us-oman-strait-of-hormuz.html?unlocked_article_code=1.31A.jw4K.YV8aSVn8E85b&smid=url-share

Jon Harrison's avatar

I'm stuck inside working all day, so I got the newsflash from the NYT as well. Trump may find that TACOing is now impossible. What will happen next?

Jon Harrison's avatar

Why so pessimistic on a Saturday? If it was Monday morning, okay.

Cathy R's avatar

I think the important word is "ACT" on reform. Voters could get a preview of legislation that could pass if we voted in a Democratic trifecta in 2028.

Albert Parsimony's avatar

Won't Trump just veto everything?

lynda schuler's avatar

This time, a Dem majority in Congress will impeach, try, convict and remove Trump, not to mention make his life a living hell, which is a worthy goal in and of itself. It's worth every ounce of effort to win the midterms.

The Peaceful Solution-Plan B's avatar

Trump Knows: Midterms Won’t Matter

From Axios, August 2, 2026

“President Trump doesn't much care if Republicans lose the House and/or the Senate in the midterms this fall.

• Yes, he'd prefer a big win, but he seems indifferent to the election and the possibility of endless Democratic investigations of his family, wealth and policies, his closest advisers tell us.

• A big reason: Trump knows he'll emerge just as strong, or even stronger, heading into his final two years, at least among Republicans.

Why it matters: Trump will enjoy a more pro-Trump Republican Congress, win or lose; gleefully play '28 kingmaker and further test the boundaries of presidential power beyond legislating, his preferred method anyway. He'll use pardons to protect his people, the advisers say.”

Three dramas to watch post-November:

1. Trump will flirt with running again in '28 until the bitter end, but it's all about PR and keeping Vance and Rubio in their place.

2. As potential outside-the-walls competition in '28, the White House is watching Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis, Sen. Ted Cruz (Texas) and Sen. Josh Hawley (Mo.).

Most importantly: A constitutional clash over congressional oversight, among the last and most vital powers lawmakers hold dear. What happens if Trump orders his entire administration, family and friends to just ignore Congress?”

From The Peaceful Solution:

The Midterms Will Not Solve the Problem

Most Americans disapprove of His Royal Heinous, but they are looking for an easy solution. One that will not require even a small sacrifice on their part, or any disruption to their life.

They are putting too much faith in what the midterms will do. The midterms may have a beneficial psychologic effect but in reality the outcome will have little or no practical effect, unless the Dems can get 2/3 majority in the house and senate, which they won’t. They will not be able to undo anything His Royal Heinous has done or pass new legislation, because of his veto power.

There will be investigations if the Dems take the House, but to what end. HRH will pardon all perpetrators, and they know it.

They will impeach HRH, but we’ve seen that movie twice before. Convicted in the senate and removed from office? Please.

He will continue to rule by “National Emergency“ and Executive Orders .

The greatest danger in all this is that it will appear that something beneficial is happening. The majority of people will believe the system is working. After about a year they will realize that nothing is changing. Then they will think, Oh well, he’ll be gone after the election next year.

Or will he? It took the Hungarians 16 years to get rid of Orban, and the Project 2025 people will certainly not make the same mistakes that Orban did.

What can we do?

We, the people, still have the power of the purse. No one can control our spending, or lack of spending. The other peaceful options are failing. Time is of the essence. The longer the fascist takeover goes on, the more difficult it will be to undo.

We must go on a spending strike until the business community stops supporting His Royal Heinous and the politicians who enable him.

Nearly 70% of the U.S. economy is driven by consumer spending. You and me. Hobble the economy and the stock market.

Economic warfare is the only thing the oligarchs, the business community, will understand and act on. Call it a Surreptitious General Strike (Quiet Quitting). Go to work, do as little as possible. Stop spending money except on essentials. Quit feeding the corporate beast that supports HRH.

Please: Resist. Stop cooperating. Stop spending. Stop the fascist takeover.

Thank you for restacking, and sharing, to help Spread the Word!

Doreen Zaback's avatar

I'm hoping DeSantis is the GOP candidate for president in 2028-because I think a Democrat could easily beat him.

The Peaceful Solution-Plan B's avatar

If we have an election in 2028.

The Peaceful Solution-Plan B's avatar

To all the naysayers out there:

After you finish defecating on this Peaceful Solution, please favor us with your own peaceful solution, that will stop and reverse the fascist takeover of America.

Jim Prah's avatar

Given his "excellent" health and having aced that Alzheimers test 4 times, I doubt he will

putting in 2028.

Ivan's avatar

The main thing is to win the house and then begin investigating the Trump grift and corruption machine. A democratic house majority leader would have to identify 50 mega grifts to be investigated and give each a 2 weeks attention windows in a deliberate order. Every two weeks a new grift gets the headlines - with a final four just before the Presidential election being focussed on the GOP presidential candidate. The one thing that almost all voters hate is the idea that someone is swindling the government (and thereby tax paying voters).

Valerie's avatar

With Schumer and Jeffries in charge there will be no reform. These 2 work for their corporate overlords not their constituents or any citizens. And Dem voters just aren’t motivated enough to force their removal

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Oh, he knows quite, quite well.

Will there be vetoes? Of course. But make him do it. Filibusters? Naturally. In that case you make sure the names are remembered. Some (temporarily) "brave" members of the president's party make meaningless "aye" votes on cloture to preserve at least ambiguity. But that doesn't matter.

The last law to hold the president accountable for *anything* that made it across the finish line concerned the release of the Epstein files -- of which we've only seen glimpses at best.

Professor Snyder's point is that the *effort* must be made. Law you're not going to get -- and even black letter law (as regarding the files) wouldn't be enough anyway. If we get to 2028 and it looks like the Democrats have retreated into "if we do *this* they're do *that*" mode -- even given the fact that at the first opportunity it's been clear that they'll do *that* anyway -- the case for some actual damn change will be really, really hard to make.

Nothing ever changes until it does. And when it does, at least part of the time, it changes harder and faster than anyone could imagine. I remember the coming Reagan Revolution (or, as I prefer, "Revulsion"). The idea that things could flip as they did in 1980 was inconceivable two years before. The universe owed me something for that one. Maybe I'll get to see it.

Cathy R's avatar

Totally agree. Dems in congress have to show us what they can do when they are in power by showing us that they fight for now.

Carolyn Herz's avatar

Just to be clear, 87% is not 100% and predictions are not votes. In order to make the blue wave happen, we can't be complacent; we have to get out and actually vote in large numbers.

Secondly, "But unfortunately, billionaires spending hundreds of millions of dollars on campaigns does seem to matter, and that’s a problem that the Supreme Court has declined to deal with." It was the Supreme Court that created the problem and Congress has declined to do its job to deal it.

Don B's avatar

Yes. And, while this may be wishful thinking, I still contend that there is a strong populist, progressive insurgent movement that will propel this “blue wave” in November. Establishment democrats need to recognize and embrace this dynamic or step out of the way. And get rid of Citizens United, the crucial SC decision that accelerated this current oligarchic, fascist takeover.

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Carolyn Herz's avatar

I don't buy that. Where in the First Amendment does it say that money is speech? And where does it say that those with more money are entitled to more speech?

FoonTheElder's avatar

The SC in Citizens United said that political contributions from corporations would be fully transparent and that it couldn't pose a substantial risk of corruption. This is what happens when the court decides the political result it wants to see and then creates laughable legal logic to justify it.

Cat's avatar

So called centrist and third way “democrats” take money from billionaire oligarchs to keep the status quo. (Looking at you, James Carville) There is no far left in the US. The GOP is so far to the right that true moderate positions in the rest of the world like universal healthcare and a living wage are considered radical. More people are waking up to this.

Carol J's avatar

FYI, the center Left are not for the status quo. We just want healthcare for all without blowing up the capitalist system.

Valerie's avatar

No. You are GOP-lite

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Anthony Winter's avatar

Hear, hear!!

Though instead of "far left" I'd say "suicidally short-sighted"..

MF's avatar

The GOP came out swinging with Islamophobia the minute Abdul won the MI primary! The average people don't care about his name - they like his policies! It might be the Streisand effect if GOP pushes too hard.

clay foster's avatar

Did you say anything about the Texas Senate race? Paxton seems to be doing everything he can to lose.

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RJCrane's avatar

I think the Dems need to win 5 Senate seats because of Fetterman. He's a loose cannon and can't be trusted and I'd hate to Senate leadership give him a better committee seat to keep him aligned in their party because in two years years he'll be gone.

MF's avatar

How is Abdul "left"? He just presents normal obvious practical solutions to the problems average people have!

LiverpoolFCfan's avatar

He's not. But as they said in this discussion, he'd perform better if his name was John Smith.

It sucks, but that's where America is right now.

Hopefully what matters above all else is how BAD and DESTRUCTIVE Trump has been. Republicans have screwed everyone in this country, especially their own voters. They deserve to be voted out of office in November.

Mario Jodoin's avatar

« that's where America is right now»

Not America, only your United States of America! The other countries of this continent are hopefully far from that!

LiverpoolFCfan's avatar

Maybe Canada. Not sure about Columbia or Argentina or Venzuela. The authoritarian model seems to be spreading. :(

Mario Jodoin's avatar

Not false, but it's not what you meant with «that's where America is right now». But, good try! ;-)

Ricardo's avatar

or, factually, Tom Smith (R), who backed out of the Michigan 8th district, only to reenter as the R candiate against Freshman Kristen McDonald Riviet (D), after trump-backed Amir Hassan who lost massively to Smith.

Robert Kapp's avatar

Wish somebody could start a move to call him Abby. “We’re Happy With Abby,” etc. There is a segment of the voting populaton that would see him differently if he bore and used a familiar American nickname.

Mark Mabro's avatar

I have zero confidence in the American people to elect someone named Abdul El-Sayed. Zero. I hope I'm proven wrong.

Albert Parsimony's avatar

They still won't elect a woman as president, even when up against about the worst opponent in US history. So you're confidence level is probably about right.

David Critchley's avatar

Doesn’t he have a nickname like “Abe” or something? That name is a serious disadvantage according to the people who study these things.

Larry Blumen's avatar

My father's name in Russian was "Avrum", but his family in America called him "Abe". Everybody else called him "Rinkey".

Stevens's avatar

Same here. But every now and then I remember America elected a guy named Barack Hussein Obama - twice and this after 9/11, and blatant Islamophobia and other lame b.s. like calling him a communist and socialist. Biggest irony of all is that tried calling him a fascist, too, especially during the ACA fight.

Then again, that was all before citizens united and billionaires united and social media...

Jenn Borgesen's avatar

A lot of money was spent to frame him as a leftist even as far as tying him to the far left leaning groups. Now the MiDems really have to backtrack and retrench to undo some of the self inflicted damage.

Fortunately Mike Rogers is a flawed candidate, right down to his questionable eligibility to ne a candidate … his house in White Lake still lacks a certificate of occupancy!

And assumptions about acceptance of the Muslim community in Michigan is also flawed … dating back to the 1800s! Michigan is home to the largest Arab American communities in the US … and seated next to large Jewish communities. MAGAts locally make a lot of noise that largely falls on deaf ears. To be sure rural communities will be the challenge, but El Sayed has a boots on the ground campaign and in person strongly demonstrates, strength, intelligence and strong alignment to public concerns largely ignored by Republicans and a lot of the mainstream Democratic party in Michigan.

I attended the Michigan Democratic Convention, where many of the candidates we selected from were brought to the slate … there was a huge progressive presence, all of us new to the mechanisms of the traditional party process that threw a curve ball in one seat we would have liked to go differently, but the crowd was vibrant and full of youth, and the multicultural nature of the state and it's history.

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While this post does contain some positive thoughts and trends, I still have trouble shaking this dark cloud in my head that has haunted my thoughts since the last presidential election. Simply, how many of my fellow Americans could have voted as they did. And now as we approach mid-terms, I fear the real problem will occur after the votes are counted.

Let’s assume that Talerico takes Texas by 1 or 2 percentage points. I can almost hear the chants of “Stop the Steal” Does anyone think that such a slim victory will not be met with challenge after challenge? Do you believe that the Republicans in Texas will accept such a victory, not to mention the potential interference with certifying the results by the Federal government.

And every close Democratic win, especially in the new gerrymandered districts, will be met with the same vitriol. Not only must this be a wave election, but a wave within the wave. The margins of victory must be so great as to defy challenge. And in our current political climate, large victories are tough to come by.

Fred Curry's avatar

Yeah, the Demos may win the house, but what if the Repubs won't seat them?

Jim Prah's avatar

What I fear is with 5000 NGs in DC until 2027 at $3 Billion, ICE acting as Storm Troopers, Concentration Camps @$38 billion with a capacity of 100000 persons. If we have elections in Nov, Ds win big, trump's lawsuits fail, he declares martial law, the NG and ICE roundup Ds to fill the CCs ? I fear that is the goal. Yeah, that can't happen here.

Is this scenario too extreme?

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DM's avatar

CJ, you are certainly good at alientating people. You are doing the candidates and the policies you support no good.

Jim Prah's avatar

Thank you for the gratuitous insult.

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Jim Prah's avatar

What did trump do in 2020. wanted to stop the count at midnight, claimed it was stolen, lost 60 lawsuits, encouraged J6 violence, stood by while the halls of congress was smeared with feces, congress terrorized and vandalized, the VP and Pelosi hunted, meanwhile trump watched it all unfold from the west wing dining room as many advised him to do somehting and did nothing for 3 hours, pardoned 1600 J6ers on his first day back in office and will pay them off with his 1776 billion slush fund. Do you think people will rewarded for insurrection? Has he changed, no, You are naive to think he will welcome a congressional lose like a normal person.

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Vickie Berry's avatar

Then we hit the streets with a National Strike that lasts until they do.

Frank Gaines Purdy's avatar

I read an article on El-Sayed yesterday. One of the pictures stood out to me because of all the young people in it. It may be that Gen Y and Gen Z's time has come. Get out and vote guys!

fuginugly's avatar

Turnout is key. Everyone must vote.

ISOequanimity's avatar

It’s up to us to make his vision a successful reality. We have laser focused, enthusiastic, truth-and-justice seekers winning elections and changing laws. But we must remain vigilant about keeping old guard dems at a distance. Some will resent their current irrelevance and try to reinvent themselves yet again. No thanks. We know how that story ends. https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/5922082-generational-shift-democratic-congress/

Robert Parker's avatar

I voted in Michigan’s primary. I live in a smallish moderate community and my precinct is in an urban area. I have been voting for about 50 years. When I voted, about 4:00 pm it appeared that 2/3 of the voters were age 20-30. I don’t ever recall so many young people being present, especially for a primary. Could be wrong, but I think young people are really energized about the Democrat’s senate nominee. Or it could be that as there was no real republican primary contest things were tilted.

DM's avatar

I've been voting for almost 60 years. I have a problem because almost everybody looks young😁. 20-30 year olds are all over the place - even at the polls.

Granny Kate's avatar

criticizing Israeli government is not the same as antisemitism.

rpasea's avatar

Any thoughts on pushback from the recent extreme gerrymandering? Is it possible that Democrats might actually pick up a few gerrymandered seats due to public disgust of the hyper partisanship?

George Patterson's avatar

There's been some speculation in the press that that might happen. Personally, I can't imagine that changing enough votes to make a difference.

Linda Roberta Hibbs's avatar

This was a most informative conversation about polling data. It is my hope democrats win the house and the senate. I am just not sure about the senate like you say. I’m prepared for this President trying to rigg this election 🗳️. This country needs to come together in a political way.

Jim Prah's avatar

Polling is really difficult especially with cell phones - with land lines tethered to zip codes one could survey based on demographics and get a good sample. With cells not tethered to zip codes, getting good demographic sample is challenging.

Ellen Lewis's avatar

Very helpful information. I still worry deeply about thuggish ICE with guns descending on or near enough to polling places that fear of death prevents voting. i hope we have an equally deterrent local law enforcement to back up The People to prevent this. I fear the presence of many election denier people occupying election controlling local positions.

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The MAGA candidates are all 100% behind Trump. And with the unpopular war in Iran, cuts to Medicaid and other health insurance programs, gas and diesel prices eating up money to be spent on food, housing and child care, the OBBBA adding over $1 trillion in new debt every 5 months, Trump's ICE killing innocent American citizens, this could be a landslide for the Democrats.

TOFU-- Trump Only F*CKS UP. And Republicans only SUCK up.